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King/Mini Gold Crowns Restored

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:51 AM

Here's a thread I saved waaaaay back from SkiesofCroda, originally posted by Sinuous. I have made a few changes here and there based on my own experiences, and I have also incorporated VioletKIRA & Aegilnet's suggestions from their Carve Guide over on GameFAQs. I also changed the formatting.

For those hunting for their crowns, here are some tips:
-YES, you can just abandon and retry if the monster is obviously not King/Mini, and it will reroll the size.
-YES, you can repel an elder dragon and then retry a bunch of times on the second round when it is weaker. It will still reroll the size each time.
-NO, there are no silver-mini crowns.
-NO, you will not get the King/Mini Crown from repelling an elder dragon, even if was King/Mini sized. You have to KILL it, not repel it.
-NO, you won't get King/Mini from "multiple" hunting quests where you hunt at least 2 monsters then deliver the Paw Pass Ticket. You can get a Silver Crown, though.
-BE PATIENT. It took me probably around 100 attempts each to get my King Blangonga and Basarios. That was just me being unlucky.

In general, you can get King size monsters more easily from higher ranked quests, especially G-rank.
In general, you can get Mini size monsters more easily from lower ranked quests, especially Village Elder ones.

Felyne Fear Factor gives you smaller boss monsters normally, but sometimes will give you King size ones instead.
I don't know for sure that this helps with getting Mini crowns, but my gut says Yes.

If anyone finds any other quests that give King/Mini or knows that a quest on this list doesn't, please let me know and I'll fix it.

Note that some names of quests/monsters have changed from 2ndG to Unite, so I have put the 2ndG name on the left of a vertical bar "|". and the Unite one on the right.
Monsters are shown in the same order they appear on your guild card.
Quests with guaranteed King/Mini are shown in orange.

Giadrome
KING:
[Guild 6*] A True Foe - The Giadrome!
MINI:
[Guild 6*] A True Foe - The Giadrome!

Velocidrome
KING:
[Guild 6*] Flanked by Velocidrome
MINI:
[Guild 6*] Flanked by Velocidrome

Gendrome
KING:
[Guild 6*] Pursuit of the Sand Wyvern
[Guild 7*] The Underwater Terror
[Guild 8*] The Runaway Diablos
MINI:
[Guild 6*] Pursuit of the Sand Wyvern

Iodrome
KING:
[Guild 7*] An Evening Soaked in Poison
[Guild 8*] Terror of the Gravios
MINI:
[Guild 7*] Basarios: Unseen Peril

Yian Kut-Ku
KING:
[Guild G*] Flanking Kut-Kus! | Trapped by Yian Kut-Ku
[Guild 6*] Trapped by Yian Kut-Ku
[Guild 7*] Gathering - Forest and Hills
[Guild G**] G Gathering - Forest and Hills
MINI:
[Guild 6*] Trapped by the Yian Kut-Ku
[Guild 7*] Gathering - Forest and Hills
[Guild G**] Chirps in the Hills | At Birds' Hill...

Yian Garuga
KING:
[Guild G**] Howl in the Night | Howling at the Moon
[Guild G**] Twin Black Wolves | The Yian Garuga Twins
[Elder 4*] The Lone Black Garuga
MINI:
[Guild G**] Twin Black Wolves | The Yian Garuga Twins
[Elder 4*] The Lone Black Garuga


Gypceros
KING:
[Guild G*] Robbed in the Jungle! | Stealing in the Jungle!
[Guild G*] The Choking Fog | Old Swamp, Shrouded in Mist
[Guild 7*] The Poison Gas
MINI:
[Guild 7*] The Poison Gas
[Elder 7*] Robbed in the Jungle! | Stealing in the Old Swamp!
[Elder 7*] Purple Poison | The Purple Poison Menace

Hypnoc
KING:
[Guild G*] The Slumber of Death | The Big Dirt Nap
[Guild G*] Dual Hypnoc | Hypno, Hypno!
MINI:
[Guild G*] The Slumber of Death | The Big Dirt Nap

Rathian
KING:
[Elder 6*] Pink Dance in the Jungle
[Elder 9*] Wyverns of Land and Sky | Fire Ring, Lunar Ring
[Guild 8*] Find the Golden Phantom
[Guild 8*] Blue Sky, Pink Earth
[Guild G**] The Eternal Queen | Her Eternal Majesty
MINI:
[Elder 6*] Pink Dance in the Jungle
[Guild 8*] Two Queens
[Guild 8*] Find the Golden Phantom
[Guild 8*] A Troublesome Pair
[Guild G***] A Glint of Moonlight | A Single Beam of Moonlight

Rathalos
KING:
[Elder 6*] Attack of the Rathalos
[Guild 8*] Deny the Silver Rathalos
[Guild 8*] Blue Sky, Pink Earth
[Guild G**] The Smoking King | A King, Robed in Smoke
[Guild G**] King's Hunting Grounds | The King's Domain
[Guild G***] Eye in the Horizon | Explore the Unexplored
MINI:
[Elder 6*] Attack of the Rathalos
[Elder 9*] Eye in the Horizon | Explore the Unexplored
[Guild 8*] Deny the Silver Rathalos
[Guild 8*] A Troublesome Pair

Khezu
KING:
[Guild 7*] Red Shadow on the Swamp | Red Shadow in the Swampland
[Guild G*] Walking Thunder | Old Jungle Lightning
[Guild G*] Red Shadow in the Mountains | Red Shadow in the Snow
[Guild G*] Tales from the Old Swamp
[Event] Download Quest of Kirin and Khezu
MINI:
[Guild 7*] Electrified Wyvern
[Guild 5*] Festival of Thunder | Two Little Shadows
[Elder 5*] Festival of Thunder | Small Shadow over the Swamp

[Elder 7*] Red Shadow in the Mountains | Red Shadow in the Snow

Basarios
KING:
[Guild 7*] Basarios: Unseen Peril
[Guild G**] G Gathering - Old Volcano
MINI:
[Guild 7*] Basarios: Unseen Peril

Gravios
KING:
[Guild G***] Flaming Jewels | The Dark Cataphracts
[Guild G***] Terror of the Gravios | Armored Supremacy
[Elder 9*] Black Lords of the Two Realms | Two Black Suits of Armor
MINI:
[Guild G***] Flaming Jewels | The Dark Cataphracts
[Guild 8*] Black Rock in the Swamp
[Elder 9*] The Armored Champion | Armored Supremacy

Monoblos
[KING:
[Elder 8*] Battle of the Blos | Battle with the Monoblos
[Elder 8*] Blood and Silver Horns | Secret Request: 2 Monoblos!
[Elder 4*] The Silver Horn
MINI:
[Elder 4*] The Silver Horn
[Elder 4*] Battle of the Blos | Battle with the Monoblos
[Elder 8*] Blood and Silver Horns | Secret Request: 2 Monoblos!

Diablos
KING:
[Elder 6*] Four Horns
[Elder 9*] The One-Horned Devil | Diablos, the Demon King
[Guild 8*] The Fierce Black Horn
[Guild 8*] Four Horns
[Guild G***] The Fierce Black Horn
[Guild G***] The Runaway Diablos | Sandstorm Summoner
[Event] Download Diablos+Black Diablos in the Great Arena (at the same time)
MINI:
[Elder 5*] The Fierce Black Horn
[Elder 6*] Four Horns
[Elder 9*] Four Spires

Tigrex
KING:
[Guild 8*] The Tigrex's Roar
[Elder 9*] Monster Hunter
MINI:
[Guild 8*] Land of the Tremors
[Guild 8*] The Tigrex Roar

Naruga Kuruga | Nargacuga
KING:
[Guild G**] Two Black Beasts | Ancient Beauty, Black Beast
[Elder 9*] Monster Hunter
MINI:
[Guild G**] Two Black Beasts | Ancient Beauty, Black Beast
[Guild G**] To Kill a Shadow | Ever-Present Shadow
[Guild G**] Swamp Assassin | Assassin of the Swamp

Cephadrome
KING:
[Guild 6*] Pursuit of the Sand Wyvern
MINI:
[Elder 2*] The Land Shark
[Guild 6*] Pursuit of the Sand Wyvern

Plesioth
KING:
[Elder 6*] Dual Plesioth
[Guild 7*] Dual Plesioth
[Guild G*] Eyes from the Deep | Eyes in the Underground Lake
[Guild G*] The Emerald Wave | Giant Green Waves of Verdure
MINI:
[Elder 6*] Dual Plesioth
[Guild 7*] Dual Plesioth
[Guild G*] G Gathering - Kokoto Desert

Volganos | Lavasioth
KING:
[Guild G**] Appearance of the Lava Wyvern! | Lavasioth Sighting
[Guild G**] River of Flame | River of Fire
[Event] Download single Volganos
MINI:
[Guild G**] Appearance of the Lava Wyvern! | Lavasioth Sighting
[Guild G**] River of Flame | River of Fire

Diamyo Hermitaur
KING:
[Guild G*] Death from Below! | Wag the Dog!
[Guild 6*] Ultimate Crab Dinner
MINI:
[Guild G*] Hidden Giant in the Jungle | Giant Crab of the Old Jungle
[Guild G*] Record of the Warring Daimyo | Daimyo of Sengoku Flame
[Guild 6*] Ultimate Crab Dinner

Shogun Ceanataur
KING
[Guild G**] The Black-Shelled Sickle | Dark-Shelled Ceanataur
[Guild 7*] The Shogun's Encampment
[Elder 6*] The Shogun's Encampment
MINI:
[Guild G**] Commander in the Flames
[Elder 6*] The Shogun's Encampment

Bulldrome
KING:
[Guild 6*] Conga Counterattack!
[Guild 7*] The King of the Mountains
[Guild 7*] The Electrified Wyvern
[Guild 7*] An Evening Soaked in Poison
[Training] Download Challenge Quest 5 (2 Bulldromes in arena)
MINI:
[Guild 6*] Conga Counterattack!
[Guild 7*] The Electrified Wyvern
[Guild 7*] An Evening Soaked in Poison
[Guild 7*] The Purple Poison Menace

Congalala
KING:
[Guild G*] Dignity of the Beast | Pelagus Pride
[Guild G*] Trickster!
[Guild 6*] Conga Counterattack!
MINI:
[Guild G*] Dignity of the Beast | Pelagus Pride
[Guild G*] Trickster!
[Guild 6*] Conga Counterattack!
[Guild 4*] The Pink Fur Party
[Guild 3*] The Mischief-maker

Blangonga
KING:
[Guild 7*] The King of the Mountains
[Guild G**] The Ruler of the Snow | The King of the Mountains
[Guild G**] Wild Beast of the Desert | Wild Monk of the Dunes
MINI:
[Guild 7*] Two Roars in the Snow
[Guild 7*] The King of the Mountains
[Guild G**] Footsteps of the Desert Ape | Copper Sands

Rajang
KING:
[Guild G***] Providence of Destruction | Child of Destruction
[Guild 8*] Rajang of Mountain Flames
[Elder 6*] Final Invitation (very rare though)
[Event] Download 2 Rajang in the arena
MINI:
[Elder 6*] Final Invitation
[Guild 8*] The Rajang in the Snow
[Guild G***] Final Invitation

Kirin
KING:
[Guild G***] The Splendour of Lightning | A Scenic Locale
[Guild 7*] The White Brute
[Guild 8*] The Fleeting Shadow
MINI:
[Elder 5*] White Brute In the Snow | The Legendary Kirin

Kushala Daora
KING:
[Guild 5*] Attack of the Wind Dragon
[Guild 8*] The Elder Dragon of Wind
[Guild 8*] The Frozen Dictator
MINI:
[Guild 5*] Attack of the Wind Dragon
[Guild 8*] The Elder Dragon of Wind
[Guild 8*] The Frozen Dictator

Chameleos
KING:
[Guild G***] Evaporate into the Night
[Guild G***] Towards the Silence
[Guild 8*] The Elder Dragon of Mist
[Guild 8*] Towards the Silence
MINI:
[Elder 5*] The Elder Dragon of Mist
[Elder 5*] Towards the Silence
[Guild 8*] The Elder Dragon of Mist
[Guild 8*] Towards the Silence

Lunastra
KING:
[Elder 5*] Overseer of the Ancients
[Elder 8*] Blue Comet | Indigo Meteor
MINI:
[Elder 5*] Overseer of the Ancients
[Elder 5*] The Empress' Blazing Throne
[Elder 5*] Check the Ancient Tower

Teostra
KING:
[Guild G***] Twilight Spectator | A Midnight Audience
[Guild G***] Emperor of Flame
[Elder 9*] Twilight Spectator | A Midnight Audience
[Elder 6*] The Sun with Fangs
MINI:
[Elder 6*] The Sun with Fangs
[Elder 6*] Emperor of Flame

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 04:37 AM

I'm on my iPhone and the spoilers button does not work for me. >_<
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 04:45 AM

View PostChaa, on 22 August 2010 - 05:37 PM, said:

I'm on my iPhone and the spoilers button does not work for me. >_<


Try it now. I guess it doesn't really need to be in spoiler tags.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 04:03 AM

Thank you very much, Another quick question how much does the cat skill fear factor effect the outcome of a gold crown mini.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:29 PM

Well, I asked on the QQ Thread but no-one seems to know. Felyne Fear Factor, from what I can gather, increases the odds of the boss monster being small, and occasionally gives a King size. I don't know if "small" in this context means Mini crown, though.

Personally, I think it is not worth bothering with when hunting for crowns. King/Mini Crown hunting basically goes Start Quest -> Check Monster -> Abandon ->Repeat. If it looks like it might be a King/Mini, then kill it instead of abandoning. I think the extra "cycles" you get by not bothering to visit the kitty kitchen would give better chances than trying to get Fear Factor (which you may not even get from the kitchen, even if you have cats geared for it).

In short, my advice is don't bother.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:33 PM

Okay fear factor does work. Fought a teostra no mini, Cat granted me with fear factor and the teo i fought was extremely small. But yeah trying to get a bunch of cats with fear factor is tedious.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:50 PM

Of course, the trouble is you don't know if the small Teo was because of Fear Factor, or despite it, i.e. you may have gotten a small Teo even without it.
However, if you are looking for Mini crowns, and you happen to get Fear Factor, it's definitely worth "spending" it on a shot at a Mini you don't have yet.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 11:18 PM

Thanks Athena! Nice A.S.S. btw! :b
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 03:56 AM

Thought i'd resurrect the issue of fear factor. It definitely works on giving king size too. Been trying for ages to get my king size crown on Rex and narga. Heard that fear factor can sometimes give you a large monster instead of mini. So I got ff from kitchen and looked up this guide for a rex quest. Thought I'd do monster hunter...

Got king size crowns for both rex and narga. No coincidence IMO...

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 04:20 AM

That's very nice to know, Firestorm. I'll mention it on the first post.
A shame we don't know any percentages or anything "solid" other than "it helps" though.

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 05:50 PM

For Rajang, the 6* elder quest Final Invitation, I got both a gold crown king AND gold crown mini size. The tiny one came first, so when I killed it and the huge one came in I was like "HOLY CRAP THAT THING IS MASSIVE!"
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 09:16 PM

Hmm. I had heard it was possible....but after trying over 100 times myself I never got a King size.
I guess it's just really rare.

Also, the second Rajang in the Final Invitation quests is always massive, at least silver crown.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:39 PM

Would like to note that I got a Gold king Narga from the Monster Hunter quest.

Currently size hunting right now so this is really handy

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 02:57 PM

I'm going slightly nuts from trying to get my king size iodrome, basarios and daimyo...

i notice that either ultimate crab dinner or wag the dog can give king size daimyo - does one have a higher chance than the other?

any I've noticed that with basarios there's a download quest called four kings of fire - i got a silver crown basarios from that one... does that mean this quest can give king sizes?

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 07:03 PM

Getting a silver crown from the download quest doesn't mean you can get a gold crown. It doesn't mean you can't, either, but for Basarios the G Volcano Gathering quest is the way to go. He starts in the area right next to base camp so it's really quick to check if he's big enough to try killing.

For Iodrome, do "An Evening Soaked in Poison" at Guild HR5. I've always had pretty good luck with that one.

For Daimyo Hermitaur, I always do Ultimate Crab Dinner. It's a very quick quest to do with G-rank equipment, and you can get Monoblos Hearts. It normally takes quite a while, though. As in, I think the chance is fairly low. The G-rank Wag the Dog may have higher chances, but it's much tougher to do quickly, especially if they team up in the same area.
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:14 AM

Athena you're a legend! Got my king size basarios after only three tries on the gathering quest! First try silver crown, second try nothing (I knew it was small but just wanted to see if adrenaline2 was faster than hbg), third try... GOLD CROWN!!!

Thx dude. Now for the damned iodrome and crab...

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:38 PM

BUMP, just in case, so... "flame-shield up"?
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Posted 14 February 2011 - 09:12 AM

Thanks for the info! This greatly helps on my monster compendium sizes.. lol
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 09:48 AM

Hi guys, I'm also trying to working my way on getting all gold crowns, but I'm currently stuck on Gravios...
I've been trying for weeks but still nothing, the problem with him is that he's already so huge that you can't exactly tell if the one you're facing is.. huger.
I have a silver crown with 28xx cm, and by doing the same quests over and over again I met some very big ones, and almost every time I think: "Cool, king size, definitely!", but nope, it must've been under 28xx, even if it seemed the biggest Gravios ever.
I got a suggestion of trying the Dual Black Gravios in the arena DLC, so I went to a friend with a PS3 and downloaded it... just to discover that they're G-Rank Black Gravios, able to wipe you out in a matter of seconds if you're unlucky. I play solo and sometimes I've been able to finish the quest by luck (with no king size at all, even if they were huge), but I'm somewhat afraid of doing it because there's nothing worse than meeting a King Size monster and then die, and in that quest is very, very easy to die and fail the mission. >__>
So... any suggestion? Where'd you find your King Size Gravios? Is there a quest with slighty more chances?
*** G-Rank missions are long and tedious and it takes a lot of time to kill them (for nothing, because in the end they're never King Size), and on the other hand Nekoht Dual BG is very easy to do, but it just seem to have small monsters...

EDIT: Nevermind, I finally found it, in The Dark Cataphracts. The Silver one I had was 2813 cm, and this Gold one is 2855. No wonder they all looked the same... This game just loves to mock you.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 09:39 AM

Hi there, I just wanted to let you know that I just found Mini size Garuga in G** The Yian Garuga Twins, which is not on the list. :)

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