[Time Lord]

OK, I've revised my opinion, and am going to flat-out copy+paste my comments on it that I made on MHWikia.

"Right, everyone stop. Calm down. The theory going around at the minute is that the 'trailer' that's been released is little more than a concept trailer designed simply to show new ideas for next game. Evidence for this is the incredibly unpolished look of the trailer - seriously, Capcom Presents is just white text in what I think may be Times New Roman, FFS - and the fact the environment looks like crap. They just cobbled anything together (hence Tigrex and Rathalos, the flagship monsters everyone will recognise) and tried to show off the new ideas they've had. No-one is saying this is exactly how they'll look when the game is released for real. Hell, MH4 is so early in its development stage they might not even keep some of these ideas.

With this in mind, let's look at the 'new ideas' showcased in the trailer:
- Wide-open expansive environment. Not a fan personally, I feel the individual area system allows for more variety from a single environment, but some people will probably like it.
- More varied ground. Did you see the hunter running up the hill to get away from the Tigrex? This could make some areas feel more realistic, IMO.
- Platforming. OK, I don't know what they're thinking here. Who'd be doing that when they could be fighting a monster? It might make some area exploration more fun, I suppose.
- Climbing. No-one liked climbing in any previous game, it's boring and time consuming. Maybe improvements to it will make it worthwhile.
- Destructible environments. Not new, but it's an idea I've loved and so far it's not been great. You know the rocks in Volcano, Area... 7? They just practically dissolve when hit by a random monster attack, not really realistic at all. Maybe it'll be better by MH4.
Of much greater interest was the collapsing floor (when Tigrex gets dumped over the edge into the pit). If it happens rarely enough in game, it could really add excitement to a fight.
- Jumping on the back of a monster. NO NO NO NO NONONONONO. This isn't Dragon's Dogma Capcom, throw this idea out the window ASAP please.
So, once we accept that the 'trailer' isn't truly representative of the game in any meaningful way, the future looks much brighter. My biggest issue at the minute is that it's only confirmed for THE FUCKING 3DS, but if it's also out on the Vita (or, god forbid, an actual home console) I'll be really quite pleased."

This post has been edited by Time Lord: 13 September 2011 - 09:04 PM

[zanta78]

Personally, after thinking for a while, I am very excited. Pessimistic ignorant fools. ily all

[Chaa]

zanta78, on 13 September 2011 - 09:16 AM, said:

Pessimistic ignorant fools. ily all

Lulz

Time Lord gets that it's just a trailer, SHOWCASING IDEAS. All we can do is wait and see.

Glass is half full, not half empty people.

[BizzarreCoyote]

zanta78, on 13 September 2011 - 07:32 AM, said:

Console jumping doesn't phase me. So what, they are sticking with Nintendo, quit QQ, but now they just fucked the game up.

That's pretty much how I feel. I don't mind jumping to the 3DS, I've been planning on picking one up anyway.


MH4 just looks...gimmicky. If that's what it really is now, Japan can KEEP it.

[Nymeria]

Time Lord, on 13 September 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

Of much greater interest was the collapsing floor (when Tigrex gets dumped over the edge into the pit). If it happens rarely enough in game, it could really add excitement to a fight.

I got excited when that happened in the video, and Tiggy went sliding backward. It would be so cool if different monsters reacted to collapsing/tilting floors in different ways... and it could hardly phase some, such as the Blango or Conga families if they brought them back (just for example), they might be awesome at keeping a grip on the floor in comparison to poor Tiggy or something with hooves?

Time Lord, on 13 September 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

- Jumping on the back of a monster. NO NO NO NO NONONONONO. This isn't Dragon's Dogma Capcom, throw this idea out the window ASAP please.

Lao-Shan Lung and Jhen Mohran. I know they were both giant monsters so it's an exception, being able to jump on their backs and ride them... but maybe success rate for successfully landing on a monster's back can be based on the size of the beast? Rathalos is bigger than a horse, so even though he isn't the colossal size of Lao or Jhen it does make sense that a human could probably fit on his back. I couldn't picture a human properly riding a mosswine -- maybe Cha-Cha could, or the Felynes like they're able to ride Poogie in MHP3...



A felyne can also ride a Gagua (Yukumo farm).


.......why do I have the sudden urge to troll a Gagua by sneaking up and trying to hop on? O.o

[One]

Yeah tigrex totally didnt climb up a vertical wall just prier to slipping off of an inclined plane.

[Nymeria]

One, on 13 September 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

Yeah tigrex totally didnt climb up a vertical wall just prier to slipping off of an inclined plane.

hahaha good point! I guess he didn't quite have his claws dug in properly...? X'D

[B@ttousai]

zanta78, on 13 September 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

Personally, after thinking for a while, I am very excited. Pessimistic ignorant fools. ily all

^already has a 3DS. herp derp. Just sayin'

[Champz]

Time Lord, on 13 September 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

OK, I've revised my opinion, and am going to flat-out copy+paste my comments on it that I made on MHWikia.

"Right, everyone stop. Calm down. The theory going around at the minute is that the 'trailer' that's been released is little more than a concept trailer designed simply to show new ideas for next game. Evidence for this is the incredibly unpolished look of the trailer - seriously, Capcom Presents is just white text in what I think may be Times New Roman, FFS - and the fact the environment looks like crap. They just cobbled anything together (hence Tigrex and Rathalos, the flagship monsters everyone will recognise) and tried to show off the new ideas they've had. No-one is saying this is exactly how they'll look when the game is released for real. Hell, MH4 is so early in its development stage they might not even keep some of these ideas.

With this in mind, let's look at the 'new ideas' showcased in the trailer:
- Wide-open expansive environment. Not a fan personally, I feel the individual area system allows for more variety from a single environment, but some people will probably like it.
- More varied ground. Did you see the hunter running up the hill to get away from the Tigrex? This could make some areas feel more realistic, IMO.
- Platforming. OK, I don't know what they're thinking here. Who'd be doing that when they could be fighting a monster? It might make some area exploration more fun, I suppose.
- Climbing. No-one liked climbing in any previous game, it's boring and time consuming. Maybe improvements to it will make it worthwhile.
- Destructible environments. Not new, but it's an idea I've loved and so far it's not been great. You know the rocks in Volcano, Area... 7? They just practically dissolve when hit by a random monster attack, not really realistic at all. Maybe it'll be better by MH4.
Of much greater interest was the collapsing floor (when Tigrex gets dumped over the edge into the pit). If it happens rarely enough in game, it could really add excitement to a fight.
- Jumping on the back of a monster. NO NO NO NO NONONONONO. This isn't Dragon's Dogma Capcom, throw this idea out the window ASAP please.
So, once we accept that the 'trailer' isn't truly representative of the game in any meaningful way, the future looks much brighter. My biggest issue at the minute is that it's only confirmed for THE FUCKING 3DS, but if it's also out on the Vita (or, god forbid, an actual home console) I'll be really quite pleased."

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I just noticed your lord Loss :|

[Andras]

Too early to tell anything. That is all.

[Halcyon Dtier]

zanta78, on 14 September 2011 - 06:16 AM, said:

Personally, after thinking for a while, I am very excited. Pessimistic ignorant fools. ily all

I don't trust capcom to deliver on any new MH games in the west, so the pessimism is warranted.

[Kaos]

act69, on 13 September 2011 - 02:49 AM, said:

this has potential to be great

This^^

and i think i may buy the 3DS just for this. i mean, i bought a wii just for tri. besides, it fucking sold itself when the tig climbed the wall. i was lole :(orgasm)O

[crestfallen]

Kaos, on 13 September 2011 - 07:43 PM, said:

This^^

and i think i may buy the 3DS just for this. i mean, i bought a wii just for tri. besides, it fucking sold itself when the tig climbed the wall. i was lole :(orgasm)O

did same for tri but, wii isn't region-locked though while NDS is. Now if there was a way around that then sure I'd give both games a try.

This post has been edited by crestfallen: 14 September 2011 - 12:42 AM

[hiimajerk]

Garland, on 13 September 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

So fealty to Nintendo is more important than making a quality game?

I think the the MH developers will not go away from their norms just to test the market.

And I'm speaking from a neutral point of view.

And Yes I own a 3DS, as well as a PS3 and 2 PSPs, but to counter balance that I have a Wii, DSi and DS lite.

You wanna bitch about me licking the balls of Nintendo, be my guest.

It's just a concept trailer yet you guys are making a big fuss out of it.

[Garland]

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You do know that Sony has like only 2 to 3 decades of gaming history... but nintendo dates way further than that right?

Paying homage to the father of games is a great way to honor that.

Again, I wasn't aware the proper reason for supporting a system is because of how long the company's been around.

[pokemondragonite]

It's amazing how many people complain they have not even played and it's a waste, do not say stupid things, if there is a change in MH is bad esntonces out more games have to be the same? not, must evolve or die and be obscured, they can not buy a damn as 3DS and you do not buy it, do not like the new game then play the old and not cry because console switching, but you like the new idea of ​​MH in 3DS suicide is the answer or you stand it, I'm a fan of MH since the PSP and I can buy a 3ds and I'm not crying or complaining because the console is too expensive, I want it for Playstation3 THEN Wait, so like you no others have 3ds playstation3 as fanes should support the new idea especially if they have not even played, not like the way monster hunter estallate takes a gun and head or do not complain.

[zanta78]

pokemondragonite, on 14 September 2011 - 01:47 AM, said:

It's amazing how many people complain they have not even played and it's a waste, do not say stupid things, if there is a change in MH is bad esntonces out more games have to be the same? not, must evolve or die and be obscured, they can not buy a damn as 3DS and you do not buy it, do not like the new game then play the old and not cry because console switching, but you like the new idea of ​​MH in 3DS suicide is the answer or you stand it, I'm a fan of MH since the PSP and I can buy a 3ds and I'm not crying or complaining because the console is too expensive, I want it for Playstation3 THEN Wait, so like you no others have 3ds playstation3 as fanes should support the new idea especially if they have not even played, not like the way monster hunter estallate takes a gun and head or do not complain.

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[Garland]

I got lost when I realized there were too many commas and no periods.

[Halcyon Dtier]

pokemondragonite, on 14 September 2011 - 12:47 PM, said:

It's amazing how many people complain they have not even played and it's a waste, do not say stupid things, if there is a change in MH is bad esntonces out more games have to be the same? not, must evolve or die and be obscured, they can not buy a damn as 3DS and you do not buy it, do not like the new game then play the old and not cry because console switching, but you like the new idea of ​​MH in 3DS suicide is the answer or you stand it, I'm a fan of MH since the PSP and I can buy a 3ds and I'm not crying or complaining because the console is too expensive, I want it for Playstation3 THEN Wait, so like you no others have 3ds playstation3 as fanes should support the new idea especially if they have not even played, not like the way monster hunter estallate takes a gun and head or do not complain.

Dear Newbie,

Learn to use punctuation. Also your rant doesn't make much sense.

Regards
Uppity Moderator.

[hiimajerk]

Garland, on 14 September 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

Again, I wasn't aware the proper reason for supporting a system is because of how long the company's been around.

I honestly doubt the MH crew cares about overseas fanbase.

Japanese are Nintendo freaks. And based on the latest figures of current 3DS sales, it's above 1 million units sold.

Currently the 3DS specs are better than the PSP's ones. Based on these figures, it would be the best move to work on something current and existing like a 3DS instead on a developmental unit of a PSVita.

I believe down the line once the development crew understands fully what the Vita can give the players will they begin a new MH for the Vita. Remember that all MH games came up quite some time after their respective consoles came out for some time.