[Hguols]

Ok, I've had it in the back of my mind to play/get this game for a while.... me being a King's Field/Shadow Tower/Eternal Ring fan and all.
Well, last night, I finally got it.

Demon's Souls. From Software's recent claim to fame!

I know I'm behind the times. Just tried it to tonight, and I absolutely HATE IT.

I went in expecting something beyond King's Field, and I wasn't disappointed there, but I was gravely disappointed for other reasons.
I don't mind the stage/mission approach, but I really don't like the linear-die-and-start-the-level-completely over bit.

This game isn't difficult, it revolves around loss - and that's not fun, its frustrating.

Let me tell you my experience thus far and this similar scenario has happened both NEW GAMEs I started.

I play through the level - I'm kicking ass.
I take a few hits here and there...
I run into this bad ass knight, and after a glorious fight, he slays me with 500+ souls in my inventory.
No biggie, I'll find that spot again.
Use 4 grasses this "life".

I respawn.
I fight through the enemies again. I run past a couple of them.
By chance a guard parries my attack and counters(whatever they called it in the game) and its an instant death, 50 feet from my death spot.
500+ souls - GONE. I'm pissed that the new replacement spot just has 200+
I used 3 grasses.

I respawn.
I run past half the enemies.
I pick up my 200+ souls, but I get boxed in a corner with too many people surrounding me, and even while blocking I die because my fatigue is too low.
I used 4 grasses.

I respawn.
I run past most of the enemies. I get fairly far, my armor is damaged.
I have to hit guys 3 times rather than 2 because my weapons are dull.
I run out of grasses, but I have 6 Slave Shields.
I die close to the beginning with less than 40 souls.

I respawn.
I kill the first "area" of baddies,
run back and exit the stage
come back in
I kill the first "area" of baddies,
run back and exit the stage
come back in
I kill the first "area" of baddies,
run back and exit the stage
come back in
I still don't have enough souls to by one damn moon grass.
I try to press forward and die in some remote area.

I respawn.
I run past ALL of the enemies.
I look everywhere and I can't find where I died to get those souls.
3 zombies rush me and I can't fend them off.

I'm left wandering around nexus with no souls, completely dull weapons and armor and I can't get through the first level (the only level I can pick) and no way to get out of this hole I dug myself into.

Please Please PLEASE tell me I'm missing some redeeming aspect of this game.

[Mr. Popo]

Nope. It took one of my friends like 6 hours to beat that level. You(Read: I) can beat that area, let alone the game, with starter stats and weapons(Read: Have played this game until my eyes bled).

[Time Lord]

I never beat the first level of Demon's Souls.
At first I kept getting slaughtered by the Red Eyed Knight guy, then when I discovered I didn't have to fight him, I got to Phalanx and couldn't beat it. The little slug-minions coming at you from all directions overwhelmed me, I used all my healing items and Turpentine, then was completely screwed when I died and respawned.

So no, you could say it's not my favourite game ever.

[Literboy]

Yep, that's Demon's Souls for ya. Losing 500+ is nothing really. I lost 3.5 million souls one time. You just have to be cautious and take time. Fighting to many enemies at once is a death sentence. Divide & conquer and expect death around the next corner.

This post has been edited by Literboy: 07 September 2011 - 06:19 PM

[Chaa]

That game sounds frustrating.

Ragequit much lol?

[Hguols]

Interesting replies guys.

I think I'll try to progress further in the game. Even if I have to soul farm areas for hours to repair/supply, I will.

I did a little research. Assuming you live, it looks like your character has the chance to level up to 999.
That sounds.... blessed.

Unfortunately, the opportunity to level up doesn't happen until the first area is completed.

[zanta78]

LolDemon Souls makes me ragequit allll of the time.

I feel you, my friends, I feel you...

[Xero]

Which class do you start of with? I use the paladin knight and the wanderer. The wanderer is basicly a ninja. I love the falchions too. And for my paladin knight i un-equip the helm chest armor and shield. All i have equiped ar the leggings, arm gaurds, halbred and talisman. I two hand all of my weapons and dodge all enemy attack. Sometimes ill use my lava lingbow to pick off some enemies to make fights easier too. Long range weapons are a must for some bosses.

This post has been edited by Xero: 07 September 2011 - 08:18 PM

[Chaa]

zanta78, on 07 September 2011 - 10:06 AM, said:

LolDemon Souls makes me ragequit allll of the time.

I feel you, my friends, I feel you...

Will you feel me?

[zanta78]

Chaa, on 07 September 2011 - 08:54 PM, said:

Will you feel me?

[Halcyon Dtier]

Don't worry about Souls. The big part of playing the game is progressing through a level.
Once you get far enough into a level you open up short cuts for your return trips to make it faster.

You can always come back and farm souls once you finish a level. Just concentrate on making progress.
Take things slow and be precise in your attacks and defense. Certain classes are much easier to play as well.
I'd suggest you read a guide to help you locate weapons/armor and how to build your class.

[SemajChaos]

Trust me. I hated this game for a few good months when I got it, for the same exact reason as you. But I did what Halcyon just said, and when you first beat it, and you get that weapon and armor (basically playstyle) that suits YOU, the game is immensely rewarding.

[Polantaris]

If the Knight you're talking about having issues with is the Red Eyed one...you'll never beat him that early. His job is to kill you there, because even if you passed him the guy at the other end is WAY more powerful than you'll possibly be without leveling (which you can't do until you beat that level).

If it's the Blue Eyed Knight...Guard. Guarding is your friend, the best friend that will never abandon you as long as you don't screw with him.
Don't worry about the Souls too much, you get a ton for beating the boss at the end (which has an easy shortcut to if you die on him so you'll be fine there). It's all about acting as if you were actually that guy. You wouldn't run into hordes of enemies, and you wouldn't go "guns" blazing either. You'll be tactical, defending almost all the time, until you see an opening, then striking when it matters most.

If you can't beat the Blue Eyed Knight no matter what you do, you'd best return the game because he's easy in comparison to most later enemies (not including bosses either).

[Hguols]

Ok, I'm really starting to like this game now. Once I got a little more of a hang of how the combat/defense/evasion works, I stopped dying nearly as much.
(and the times I would die, I got a little too brave/stupid and died a King's Field death... like trying to lift the items underneath the two dragons.

My biggest hangup was, as what's always been said.... I was trying to get past this red eyed knight and I died a few times from that. The heavy knights, I seem to handle better when I just circle-strafe around them. I had to learn pretty quick that I had to be somewhat unrelenting with my own attacks, or they'll keep eating potions. They're not a problem at all.

I try not to get too crazy with block as that (coupled with attacking) can drain my fatigue and leave me vulnerable. That was a major problem I'd have before. I'm glad this game doesn't allow me to do anything resembling turtling, and I have to consciously watch my fatigue and fight in bursts.

I'm also a heavy armor kind of guy. Once I found that merchant that sold plate armor, I got myself the whole set and started thrashing again.

I also learned to take advantage of the environment if at all possible. Like letting the zombies with flame knives hit explosive barrels, hit the crate to let the cannonballs clear out an upper wall, or let the dragon purge the bridge. I still get the experience/souls.

I've completed the first area. (with Phalanx defeated, I think that's his name) second try. Go figure, the fight goes a lot easier when I use firebombs and turpentine. It took me 15-20 minutes to find the "monumental" afterward, but I'm glad that's over with. I like this chick dressed in black with napkins over her eyes. I can see her to level myself up. I'm currently Soul Level 10, complete plate armor, battle axe +2.

I don't know if this is good or bad for 7 hours of play. (like popo, I think 6 of those were just beating the first level)
...but I'm finally starting to get the hang of this game.

Now if I could just change the title of this thread....

Xero, on 07 September 2011 - 02:17 PM, said:

Which class do you start of with? I use the paladin knight and the wanderer. The wanderer is basicly a ninja. I love the falchions too. And for my paladin knight i un-equip the helm chest armor and shield. All i have equiped ar the leggings, arm gaurds, halbred and talisman. I two hand all of my weapons and dodge all enemy attack. Sometimes ill use my lava lingbow to pick off some enemies to make fights easier too. Long range weapons are a must for some bosses.

That's kind of funny you say that. I picked the wanderer because of his stats, (I always tend to go for higher luck stats) having no idea he's like a ninja.
Ironically enough, you took the heavy armor off your paladin knight and gave him a nimble fighting approach....
I took my "ninja" and armored him up like a tank.
( ^ - ^)

This post has been edited by Hguols: 08 September 2011 - 07:19 AM

[Xenomorph42Q]

I only played this at Semaj's urging and I didn't care for it. I'm all for a challenging game, but not for a game that's challenging then punishes you for the slightest, most minute mistake and then makes it damn near impossible to recover from it.

[Quel33]

This thread goes from I HATE DEMONS SOULS, to I SOMEWHAT ENJOY DEMONS SOULS, rofl.

[Chaa]

Quel33, on 08 September 2011 - 09:56 AM, said:

This thread goes from I HATE DEMONS SOULS, to I SOMEWHAT ENJOY DEMONS SOULS, rofl.

Roflwafflez

[Halcyon Dtier]

I didn't even edit the title....

must of been....Aliens!

[Jask]

The game is quite hard at first, but it gets easier as you get more into it. The two big things are figuring things out (as you've described yourself doing) and learning what will happen when (like the dragon sweeping the bridge).

As you may have noticed, putting on too much weight with equipment will slow down your dodging considerably. One of the stats can help to counter this, as will a ring you get later.

When you get to the last boss in the Tower of Latria (3-3), make sure you're online, it makes the fight much more fun.

I recommend researching world and character tendencies and understanding those mechanics.

I lent this game to a co-worker, he couldn't handle it. He ragequit in ten minutes. Granted, this guy also has pretty bad taste in games. He didn't like Shadow of the Colossus, Fallout 3... can't remember which other games he wasn't into.

[Quel33]

Chaa, on 08 September 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:

Roflwafflez

Halcyon Dtier, on 08 September 2011 - 09:38 PM, said:

I didn't even edit the title....

must of been....Aliens!

Waffle Aliens.