[Joker]

It is possible that Khezu/Gigginox are mistaken for the same thing/breed and their young are confused. After all, in one of the quests in-game it mentions Vespoids, so there's some interaction going on between the different lands.

[AHB]

I've always wondered how the element is applied on the weapon. Anyone got any thoughts?

[Joker]

I think it has something to do with the specific parts that the weapon is made from. For example, the Lagiacrus weapons. A lot of them require Shell Shocker material in order to make the weapon. It is known that Lagiacrus uses the Shell Shockers to release electricity, so any weapon that requires Shell Shockers would presumably do the same.

The Shell Shocker must have some sort of trigger on it in order to release the thunder element. Perhaps the contact of the weapon striking a monster forces the shells to respond and therefore, release the electricity.

For fire weapons, I would guess that it has something to do with flame sacs that are applied to the weapon via crafting. Not all fire weapons require sacs, I know, but if you think about it, not all of them need it. Either that, or the weapons are glossed with some sort of abrasive that triggers when the weapon connects/strikes something, causing the small fire burst.

[kutkurider]

Yeah, and most Water weapons are made of Ludroth, which is a spongy material.

So while you're loading, the hunter is dipping his weapon into the closest puddle trying to absorb all the water he/she can. Whenever you strike a monster, water is squeezed out of the weapon and it drips onto the monster.

[Joker]

My question :-

How is it that Deviljho can dig his way to certain areas? He has an able-structured jaw for biting/digging but his arms do not benefit him at all. However, he can somehow rip up the earth and burrow down in no time at all.

[kutkurider]

Maybe he just eats the dirt.

[Time Lord]

Narvinyë, on 31 July 2010 - 08:22 PM, said:

@ Time Lord
You may have probably seen this, but nevertheless:
Jhen Mohran Ecology

You get the information of Jhen filtering the sand for nourishment in-game as well.

I really wouldn't set any store by the monster ecology pages on the Wiki, seeings as 90% of them is speculation and snippets pieced together from in-game information. Admitedly, it's occaisionally good speculation, but speculation nevertheless.

Worth reading, however, are the segments that are translated from the official Monster Hunter Encyclopedia. This one, for example: http://monsterhunter...i/Gobul_Ecology (it's at the bottom of the page).

Ok, if we accept that Jhen filters the sand, it would benefit from a way of removing the sand rapidly, such as 'gills'... but it doesn't have any such thing. The only way I can see for it to remove all the excess sand would be to spit it out its mouth at regular intervals (which would be incredibly inefficient) or pass it out the other end, and quickly, or its digestive system would be clogged up with sand.

@Joker: Does Deviljho ever dig out of anywhere other than the Tundra caves? If so, it could just use its immense strength to burrow through the ground; the mouth, as you noticed, would be particularly helpful for this. The low gravity will probably aid this, and perhaps the soil/ground in the caves is particularly loosely packed. Unlikely in the freezing cold, I admit, but I can't think of anything better.

[mr man]

deviljho does burrow in the flooded forest, into area 2 i think it is

[kutkurider]

Perhaps that's why it fires off its rocks? I'm sure you've noticed it seems to consume a large amount of sand before launching them.

[Narvinyë]

@ Time Lord
The Monster Hunter theory topic is speculation by definition, so, yeh. And I think that many of the information in the Wiki came from the old SoC theory topic as well (I was never really happy with that thread, since people would say anything possible just to make MH look plausible).

My question: why is the anti-dragon element named dragon and made from dragon monsters? You wouldn't expect to make a water (= anti-fire) sword from a Rathalos, now would you.

My explanation: they just were to lazy/busy/whatever to make an adecuate counterpart to the dragon element (the one dragon elders and Deviljho use), so they made it antidragon at the same time. And I doubt that there is more to it. But speculations are, as always, welcome

[mr man]

it does make sense when you think about it, as dragons are only weak to other dragons, and they all have at least 1 other weakness

[Narvinyë]

How are dragons 'weak' to other dragons? Their element is identical. When I say weakness, I refer to an extreme sensibility. Moreover, you can make a weapon that is deadly to Lao Shan from Lao Shan material, to give an example. Doesn't make much sense to me. (I believe that someone once stated that dragons have some kind of isolated venom inside that is deadly to them, but meh)

[OT]: Btw, are you online on Tri right now?

This post has been edited by Narvinyë: 01 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

[kutkurider]

Well, how is Dragon even element?

I kinda think this is like Hardness found in minerals... where Diamonds can cut other Diamonds, but something like Quartz wouldn't even scratch.

[mr man]

Narvinyë, on 01 August 2010 - 03:02 PM, said:

How are dragons 'weak' to other dragons? Their element is identical. When I say weakness, I refer to an extreme sensibility. Moreover, you can make a weapon that is deadly to Lao Shan from Lao Shan material, to give an example. Doesn't make much sense to me. (I believe that someone once stated that dragons have some kind of isolated venom inside that is deadly to them, but meh)

[OT]: Btw, are you online on Tri right now?

yes im on tri, but im doing naked runs with joker, legit and artemis

that sunds like the best possible explanation, but it could be that they cant bear to see one of their own/parts of in a human weapo, and it hurts them mentally

[Jmo1link]

I remember someone posting a picture of how Khezu and Giggi would mate in the old forum, it was creepy yet very funny.

[Time Lord]

On the old Minegarde theory topics, I think we eventually came to the consensus that 'Dragon Element' was some kind of electromagnetism. I can't really remember how we came to this conclusion, however.
I do remember, however, that because Icey Berukyruso can fire it in balls (http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=vguzZhuOEZQ&feature=related*) and it causes paralysis, the magentism is causing the metal parts of the armor to stick together.

Of course, this theory is so full of holes it's laughable, but nevermind.

Narvinyë: Speculation is always good.

*Obviously, remove the space and the asterisk in the link. It turns out that posting the complete link causes it to become embedded, for some reason.

This post has been edited by Time Lord: 01 August 2010 - 03:16 PM

[SemajChaos]

I am guessing the dragon element hurts dragons because it is so unnatural. Take Jho, his pure dragon breath. How is that possible? Maybe it's some form of anti-energy, like dark matter (if memory serves). When it comes back into contact with its self, it may cause some reaction that produces energy which harms the dragon. Natural versus unnatural. So, Jho breathes dragon onto another Jho, inside the victim the 'dragon' reacts with the other 'dragon', creating the opposite of dragon (thunder?), hurting it?

[AHB]

Here's a few beauties I thought of:

How does a chestpiece give hearing protecting? I can understand a helmet but not any other part of the armor.

Also, how comes you can block a roar? Maybe a lance would actually shield your ears but not a Greatsword surely?

[mr man]

each piece of armor comes with a finite amount of cotton wool to shove in your ears, and you need as much as possible to block roars

[AHB]

So the hunter couldn't put wool in his ears anyway?