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#41 User is online   Jask 

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:05 AM

Some friends got this game a couple weeks ago, so I've been playing when I hang out with them on Wednesdays, we'll alternate between our characters and help each other out with advice and tactics. Sadly, they currently aren't able to get their PS3 online.

I started with Temple Knight. I've only cleared a couple levels. I got really lucky and got a Guillotine Axe drop on my first run of 1-2. I've been bouncing between that and my halberd, both of which have been upgraded a bit. I'm still trying to pick my build. I've been considering a Faith build with a little extra Strength and Dexterity.
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:21 AM

Should be picking this up after work today.

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 03:52 AM

Will do. BTW, what region of the game are you guys using?
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Posted 24 August 2010 - 11:15 PM

View PostSchpeltiger, on 24 August 2010 - 02:52 PM, said:

Will do. BTW, what region of the game are you guys using?


The NA version.

Got it yesterday and it's great.
Kinda nuts that they kill you in the tutorial.

Also what's a good build for a temple knight
and where do I "level" up?

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 04:13 AM

View PostHalcyon Dtier, on 25 August 2010 - 07:15 AM, said:

The NA version.

Got it yesterday and it's great.
Kinda nuts that they kill you in the tutorial.

Also what's a good build for a temple knight
and where do I "level" up?


The usual builds with a temple knight origin are the Dex-type, Str-type, Balanced Str-Dex type, etc. Typically any build that is weapon-based.

To level up, you have to increase a stat by paying souls to the maiden in black. A stat increase is equal to one level increase as well as an increase in physical def.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 04:20 AM

Temple Knight and Royalist are PvP-Oriented Machines that can specify into a certain stat (because of low Luck) with Temple Knight being the more useful with its less magic points.

Temple Knight can become any build: Magic, Faith, Strength, Dex and their smaller categories; i.e. Northern Regalia and Blueblood Sword (Both magic based but BBS uses luck)
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 05:25 AM

View PostSchpeltiger, on 25 August 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

The usual builds with a temple knight origin are the Dex-type, Str-type, Balanced Str-Dex type, etc. Typically any build that is weapon-based.


Any sites where I can read more about these "types" or see any example of a type build?
Is a type build basically where you put the most points into a certain skill over others?
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:59 AM

Builds are optimized based on the average Soul Level 120.

EWGF (A maker of the Build Guide; popular PvPer) helped the PvP community jump start with specifications on weapons used, stats needed, minimum requirements, and details about what each stat point gives. http://www.gamefaqs....ouls/faqs/59592

Here's a summary on diminishing returns from EWGF's guide:

-Keep vitality from 42~50 (Max HP is 1500 in body form at 50 Vit)
-Stamina caps out at 160, so 40 endurance max.
-Only use ENOUGH Strength points to wield what you want to use (i.e. Greatsword when two-handed requires 21 or 22 strength, one handing requires 30)
-Dexterity and Faith should only be capped at 50, anymore and the gains from stat becomes useless.
-Luck isn't needed unless you're going Blueblood.
-Magic should be kept at 10 just so you can learn spells, otherwise, skip it unless you are doing Magic Based Damage.
-Intelligence minimum should be 15 so you have 100 MP without bonus from equipment. This allows you to at least cast Second Chance (100 MP required) and Cursed Weapon + 2 slots of Magic Memory.
-Faith gets 2 slots of Miracle Memory at 16; 3 at 34~36 (forgot).

Summary of stones/equipment based on primary stats:

+All weapons and equipment will scale damage and bonuses according to the RANK of the bonus. The order goes: Strength/Dexterity/Magic/Faith.
-+An example would be: -/-/A/C (Not a real item), this item will boost Magic damage greatly and some Faith.

-Faith equipment have the Prefix "Blessed", Faintstones
-Dexterity uses Bladestones for "Sharp"
-Strength uses Greystones for "Crushing"
-Magic uses either "Crescent" or "Moon"

The higher the upgrade, the better the bonuses.

Some rare or unique equipment may require using "Colorless Demon Souls", only 10 obtainable per New Game (+).
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 12:38 PM

Hey, ive been playing a while now and still havent come across any armour. Im playing as Royalty class.

When should I be getting more armour, and where is a good place to get it? thanks in advance.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 03:08 PM

View Postwapaloola, on 25 August 2010 - 07:38 AM, said:

Hey, ive been playing a while now and still havent come across any armour. Im playing as Royalty class.

When should I be getting more armour, and where is a good place to get it? thanks in advance.


Armors have to be found or purchesed from the NPC's hidden in the world. There are some sets that u can find free of charge, ofcourse.

Brushwood set is found in 1-1(This is a heavy set... really heavy)

Fluted set can be found in 3-1(The tower level,Average set also featured in the intro)

Those are the only ones i found without much of a fight, The gloom and darksteel sets come from story dependant NPC's, kinda like Odstrava's rune blade.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 04:28 PM

Armor for me is kind of meh. I never really noticed their protection value except for the heavy ones but the downside is the slow rolling and the stamina regen penalty.

Either get the Full Ancient King set for males or the Binded set for females (almost a rule in the DS wiki) or just mix and match.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:07 PM

Great thanks for the tips guys!

I worked out why I couldn't find the Maiden in Black, she doesn't appear in the Neuxs
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 05:45 AM

word of warning, "balanced dex str type" is not what it sounds like. i have a build over at the dswiki for it. :D
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 07:12 AM

woo more people are doing the demon soul dance (ok i kno that was wack ._.) anyways i finished my mage.. left him at lv 90

i kinda like how i one hit all the bosses and 1 to 3 hit players (unles they're rocking that evil dark silver shield DX)

might start on another build. I was thinking faith just cause its different.. idk any suggestions?

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:05 AM

i'm kinda well known in DS pvp, so I'll help with anyone who needs build help. I can also give weapons at the pvp bracket range level(100-140)
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:57 AM

View PostMr. Popo, on 26 August 2010 - 01:45 PM, said:

word of warning, "balanced dex str type" is not what it sounds like. i have a build over at the dswiki for it. :D


Triple post? I was also referring to your Quality build in that statement, I figured they would learn about it sooner or later.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:55 PM

I killed the Phalanx thingy.

Started leveling my character which is now Royalty Class (wooo soul arrow)

I put points into Vitality, Endurance and Strength (like a bunch into strength to raise it from 11 to 22 to use the purple flame shield effectively)

I'm currently using a spear +2.

Really not sure what to go for with the Royal class, should I just forget about soul arrow
and magic as it will be less useful later on?

If any of this sounds like a stupid build tell me please, kinda lost here.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 04:43 AM

Actually, Magic is pretty strong in this game (think Dragon Age Origins). A Magic-based build is very formidable once an attack connects but the Faith builds are pretty much the bane of their existence.
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:58 AM

Well, magic is good if you're using 1) Pure Spells and lots of MP or 2) Melee Magic Damage + Light Weapon.

Otherwise, lots of strength + cursed weapon is an auto win for every other build.

Faith is an all-rounded build, at the price of extra damage, they receive constant HP regen.
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 10:37 AM

I've beaten The Tower Knight and The Armored Spider.
Died on the flame lurker, I'll try him again once I pump my magic up a bit.

Found that being a blue phantom is a really good way to farm souls.
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