[KillaKeeps]

Barroth set good to get? Just killed my first Barroth, and have to capture Royal Ludroth and hunt some Gobul thing next. I'm pretty noob to Monster Hunter (as Mh3 is my first experience, and haven't been playing it very long) why can't I make more of the weapons and I'm almost on 4 star missions. I can't even make full Bnahambra armor :\

[Halos Nach Tariff]

Well to make weapons and armour, as I'm sure you've noticed, you need to carve parts off of monsters. So Bhanabra armour is actually relatively difficult to get as it's tricky to carve Bhanabra as they explode unless killed with poison.

Barroth armour is a pretty good starting set, I seem to remember it having a number of nice offensive skills and decent defenses.

To unlock the ability to craft new weapons and armour you often have to find a specific monster part, for example to unlock the Ludroth helm you might need 'R. Ludroth Crest' or something, if you don't have the right item you won't be able to make the equipment.

[KillaKeeps]

I understand that I need to have the right resources to get the weapons/armor, but what about unlocking them? Do I need to have the resources to unlock them? So far only thing of the Bnahambra suit I'm able to make is the boots, and I don't have the option to create the Ludroth hammer or whatever. I've beaten the Royal Ludroth, and I've beaten Barroth, I can make all of Barroth armor...

Sorry if these are stupid questions

[AthenaADP]

You've seen how in the shop how armor pieces usually require 3 to 4 different materials to create? When you first obtain the first on the list (the top one) then that armor will appear in the shop.

For example, you slay your first Barioth, and obtain a bunch of scales, shells, wings and a tail. You will see the body, waist and leg armors in the shop, but you won't see the helm or the gauntlets because you didn't happen to get an Amber Tusks, which are first on the list for those two pieces. Even though each armor piece requires scales and shells, you didn't get the first material on the list so they won't show up yet.

Btw I don't actually know if that example is exactly how it is in Tri, but that's how it is in P3rd. But the point remains.

[KillaKeeps]

Ok, I think I've got it now. Thanks for that info.
I need to get more familiar with how everything works.

[Dray84]

Barroth Armor is definitely a great armor set.

It comes with Adrenaline +1, which bolsters your defense when your HP is low, increasing the likelihood that you'll survive if you get hit some more.
And then Attack Up (S), which can be increased to (M) with just a 1 or two Attack jewels.
Plus Marathon Runner, which is always nice for when you have to chase a cowardly monster across the map over and over again.

It DOES come with Critical Eye -1, but you can tack that down with a single Expert gem. I usually put it on a weapon.

I love Barroth armor. At first, I decided to skip it and go for Rathalos, but I had the extra materials on me and went ahead and made a set. Now it's my main armor, and I'm just gonna keep upgrading it with armor spheres.

Got me a nice charm that grants +6 Sharpening, so I tack on two Grinder gems and I have Sharpening Inc.

So Sharpening Inc, plus Attack Up M, Marathon Runner, and Adrenaline +1. And with one slot on my weapon I can get rid of the Critical Eye -1.

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Don't look at me like that...

[Spike]

Weapons are pretty upgradepath-minded. Forge a weapon, and start from there. For example, IIRC, Bone Hammer goes to + to Bone something else to other something else OR Ludroth Hammer. Which then goes to + to Fang Hammer 'Echo' to Fang Hammer 'Ruin', and so on.

Also, on the subject of the Barroth armor, it's... meh. You can do without. I find Peco much more efficient due to the simple fact of Evade+1.

This post has been edited by Spike: 23 January 2011 - 04:10 AM

[Dray84]

Bah! Evade, Shmevade! A GOOD hunter doesn't NEED help evading!

As for weapons, yeah. Barroth weapons are pretty awesome, too. I haven't hit the high-ranks yet, and my Barroth SwitchAxe is probably the strongest weapon I've got.

[Mithost]

It is very easy to get hooked on the barroth set. Im not much for blade sets, but before I went to gunning I remember practically living in that armor. It isn't a bad set, but it won't suit you for long. After gobul you really won't need it unless you really want to upgrade it instead of going for rathian/rathalos armor, which by my knowledge are some of the best blade master sets around (health up and fire res on ian, Attack and crit eye on los, cool looking either way).

Peco armor low rank is godly with evade and attack up. You might even see some litte/no damage runs. It is really helpful for your first time fighting some of these monsters, and the attack up (I think it has that) is always a good bonus.

[BizzarreCoyote]

Dray84, on 23 January 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

Bah! Evade, Shmevade! A GOOD hunter doesn't NEED help evading!

A good hunter doesn't need help sharpening either, but there you go.

[Spike]

Dray84, on 23 January 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

Bah! Evade, Shmevade! A GOOD hunter doesn't NEED help evading!

As for weapons, yeah. Barroth weapons are pretty awesome, too. I haven't hit the high-ranks yet, and my Barroth SwitchAxe is probably the strongest weapon I've got.

Barroth weapons have negative affinity (-30%, IIRC). That's worse than people usually paint it out to be.

Is SSI really necessary? And a newcomer can go through attacks without any experience and no Evade+? Or live enough for Adrenaline+1, to that matter. I guess you can gem it out, but that CE-1 is pretty blah.

I guess, yes, with a decent charm it can be pretty good.

[Dray84]

BizzarreCoyote, on 25 January 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:

A good hunter doesn't need help sharpening either, but there you go.

A good Hunter doesn't need help with SHUT YOUR FACE, but there you go. lol

Spike, on 25 January 2011 - 10:11 PM, said:

Barroth weapons have negative affinity (-30%, IIRC). That's worse than people usually paint it out to be.

Is SSI really necessary? And a newcomer can go through attacks without any experience and no Evade+? Or live enough for Adrenaline+1, to that matter. I guess you can gem it out, but that CE-1 is pretty blah.

I guess, yes, with a decent charm it can be pretty good.

I dunno, man. I think the exact opposite, that people tend to make negative affinity sound worse than it actually is. -30% affinity basically amounts to "3 out of every 10 hits you land MAY be weaker than others".

I have been fighting with Barroth weapons for most of my run in Tri and I have never noticed a significant issue with doing less damage once in a while. They're basically like the Tigrex weapons of Unite. Sure, they have negative affinity. But they also have really nice chunks of raw power. So really, you can look at it more like "Your weapon is doing critical damage 70% of the time", rather than "your really strong weapon is doing normal damage 30% of the time".

And yes, Evade is pretty nice if you like staying up close to the monster and are super-aggressive. But newbie hunters aren't going to wanna do that just yet, and should get the hang of simply ducking out of a monster's range before the attack comes (or, alternatively, using their shields). Sure, it's nice that you can do a sidestep while a tail is flying overhead, and not get hit at all. But there's always a chance you'll goof it up and wake up later with a pounding headache, and the entire lower half of your body missing.

All I'm saying is that Evade is a nice skill, but having it doesn't instantly make any armor better than others. Being able to roll right through a charge is just one of many ways you can improve your hunting efficiency. Sharpening your sword in one swipe is another.