[Kylol]

How much hp does this thing have? Using hi frost edge with armor skills sharp sword ra+1 and attack up medium i brought 2 lbb+ 3 lbb and 10 large barrells 10 gunpowder and 10 scatterfish, 5 flash bombs and 7 sonic bombs + 4 you get in supplies, i would sonic bomb him and then use the lbb+s, i missed only two of the sonic bombs and landed all of my lbb's on him. I used three shock traps + 1 my cat laid. I got him to flee the area and cut his tail in the first five minutes....... yet when there was only five minutes left on the mission he had not died. I didnt die once till there was 20 mins left, i knocked him over tons of times.... WHY WONT HE FUCKING DIE?

edit : also i used 10 power seeds he has infinite health wtf

This post has been edited by Kylol: 21 November 2010 - 04:00 AM

[Faith]

That's good and all, but if you weren't able to kill it then you must be doing something wrong.
I advice you to change your weapon class, something such a great sword, as it is a very effective weapon to kill the diablos.
Now, that doesn't mean killing it with Hi Frost Edge is impossible, it's actually a good weapon to kill it, but certainly no the fastest.
So a simple advice, would be, if you didn't manage to kill it with all of your arsenal, then that means you didn't deal enough damage, which could mean you are respecting him too much and only manage to land hits while he is trapped/blind/stuck/.
So, go to the quest, find it, if it's underground sonic bomb it, remember that sonic bombing won't work while he is enraged, and when he goes to rage mode trap it or get it stuck somewhere.
Don't be THAT cautious.

[tagyawat2003]

Does that high rank guild diablos, by any chance, have only one horn and is more ginormous than usual? (one horned demon king) then expect a very long fight cause it has more HP than G-ranked ones. I killed that thing using melee G-ranked weapons and even then it took a lot of time. I don't think that quest was made to be soloed on High rank

[Kylol]

Aegid, on 21 November 2010 - 04:34 AM, said:

That's good and all, but if you weren't able to kill it then you must be doing something wrong.
I advice you to change your weapon class, something such a great sword, as it is a very effective weapon to kill the diablos.
Now, that doesn't mean killing it with Hi Frost Edge is impossible, it's actually a good weapon to kill it, but certainly no the fastest.
So a simple advice, would be, if you didn't manage to kill it with all of your arsenal, then that means you didn't deal enough damage, which could mean you are respecting him too much and only manage to land hits while he is trapped/blind/stuck/.
So, go to the quest, find it, if it's underground sonic bomb it, remember that sonic bombing won't work while he is enraged, and when he goes to rage mode trap it or get it stuck somewhere.
Don't be THAT cautious.

I know they dont work when hes enraged, im not being very cautious *sigh*. I like gs but i would think they are pretty terrible on diablos, any videos of why its very effective?

[tagyawat2003]

[Faith]

Blos has a weak spot, and that spot is the tail, which is simple to reach by a great sword, or even a long sword.
There will be chances (trapping him, flashing him, getting him stuck) where you will be able to triple charge the tail, and that will cause great damage to Diablos.
I even made a guide about it, but as I made it a long time ago it got lost.

So Great Swords aren't terrible against Diablos, it's one of the weapons that work best against this wyvern.

^Thanks for providing the video.

This post has been edited by Aegid: 21 November 2010 - 05:36 AM

[Kylol]

tagyawat2003, on 21 November 2010 - 05:12 AM, said:

Does that high rank guild diablos, by any chance, have only one horn and is more ginormous than usual? (one horned demon king) then expect a very long fight cause it has more HP than G-ranked ones. I killed that thing using melee G-ranked weapons and even then it took a lot of time. I don't think that quest was made to be soloed on High rank

nope its black

This post has been edited by Kylol: 22 November 2010 - 03:21 AM

[mazereon]

Kylol, on 21 November 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

it has one horn and i hate it

If it does have one horn it's assuredly not a Black Blos like your subject says. That Blos is very solo-able at High rank though.

I could give you a strategy, but I don't think it'll help. It really sounds like you play MH as a game of attrition - you stack items against a creature, and hope it runs our of HP before you do. You've found out that solution won't work long term. I really suggest you start leaving items (especially flashes) at home and begin the process of working out how to fight creatures with your SnS. Understanding attack and evasion windows is the guts of the game, and if you can't kill a creature that's not standing still then I really advise you to go back to square one and learn to hunt stuff.

I know this from experience; I used to dread fighting Blos because I didn't know how to. I got tired of feeling insecure, left flashes at home, and got walloped. But I kept at it and finally I found out when I could hit him and how long for. Now, I can kill a Blos at any rank with any class no worries, because I know how to fight Blos instead of knowing how to use items.

Play the game how you want, but if you want a long term solution to your problem of struggling to kill upper echelon creatures, you should learn to fight rather than relying on items.

[Kylol]

mazereon, on 21 November 2010 - 06:32 AM, said:

If it does have one horn it's assuredly not a Black Blos like your subject says. That Blos is very solo-able at High rank though.

I could give you a strategy, but I don't think it'll help. It really sounds like you play MH as a game of attrition - you stack items against a creature, and hope it runs our of HP before you do. You've found out that solution won't work long term. I really suggest you start leaving items (especially flashes) at home and begin the process of working out how to fight creatures with your SnS. Understanding attack and evasion windows is the guts of the game, and if you can't kill a creature that's not standing still then I really advise you to go back to square one and learn to hunt stuff.

I know this from experience; I used to dread fighting Blos because I didn't know how to. I got tired of feeling insecure, left flashes at home, and got walloped. But I kept at it and finally I found out when I could hit him and how long for. Now, I can kill a Blos at any rank with any class no worries, because I know how to fight Blos instead of knowing how to use items.

Play the game how you want, but if you want a long term solution to your problem of struggling to kill upper echelon creatures, you should learn to fight rather than relying on items.

I usually just bring potions and a trap or two and have completed up to akantor on offline quests and up to the last stars of high rank in the guild. I started adding items to my inventory on every extra attempt after i failed this quest, and ended up with this much supplys because its a tough quest for me. I dont usually use sns, i use hammer and ls and sometimes gs, and speaking of evasion windows i practiced for like 3 hours yesterday rolling under tigrexes charge and rolling through his scream with evade+1 ^^. I was trying the quest again with my ls (naruga one) but my battery died. When i try it again later maybe i will get it, i try to bait his tail swipe and then combo his leg on the right after the first swipe is dodged, and just combo his legs after charges if im close and ofc combi his legs when he taunts. If he have some tactic to share id love to hear it, maybe a ls one ^^. Oh and ofc i cut the tail asap. Thanks for the reply maze, looking forward to your mhp3 youtube. I simply posted this topic out of frustration, you know.

[Kylol]

edit : somehow double post sorry

edit edit : done. Now black gravios and then urgents

T_T

This post has been edited by Kylol: 21 November 2010 - 08:34 AM

[mazereon]

Glad you got through it, dude. I find hammer Blos easier than SnS'ing it, so if you're good with hammers I'd recommend that instead.

HR Black Grav is really easily tackled like this:

[Usul]

Bombs generally let your rip through low-high rank, though I'd understand if you don't want to use them.

[Hguols]

As much as I can destroy anything with a great sword, if I had to choose, I'd take a pierce bow to a Diablos fight.

Despite bows having the "weak weapon wrap", I can kill a diablos faster with a good pierce bow, than with a good great sword.

Probably because I can do all tail shots, rather than great sword tail, stomach and leg swings.

[SemajChaos]

Kylol, on 20 November 2010 - 09:57 PM, said:

it has one horn and i hate it

Don't break that horn. I couldn't kill that Blos til I git Uka hammer. Ledge it a lot.

[Kylol]

mazereon, on 21 November 2010 - 08:54 AM, said:

Glad you got through it, dude. I find hammer Blos easier than SnS'ing it, so if you're good with hammers I'd recommend that instead.

HR Black Grav is really easily tackled like this:

edit; : read description thx

This post has been edited by Kylol: 22 November 2010 - 03:28 AM

[Chaa]

SemajChaos, on 21 November 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:

Don't break that horn. I couldn't kill that Blos til I git Uka hammer. Ledge it a lot.

Lol! Pro4evar!

I downed the high rank devilblos with crystal tuna. Haha took 48 mins though.

Hi frost is good and all, but it's an sns.

*cheerleader style* Be aggressive! B-E AGGRESSIVE!

[SemajChaos]

Chaa, on 22 November 2010 - 12:53 PM, said:

Lol! Pro4evar!

I downed the high rank devilblos with crystal tuna. Haha took 48 mins though.

Hi frost is good and all, but it's an sns.

*cheerleader style* Be aggressive! B-E AGGRESSIVE!

lololololololol