[Firestorm79]

Still can't get a hang of rolling rex's roar and baiting his charge. More so the former than the latter.

Can anyone actually post a vid - slow motion style - to show when to roll. I've seen Maze's DS vid and he times those rolls perfectly each time. No evade skill either... I'd appreciate tips from anyone who's a roll-roar-pro (try saying that fast three times).

With baiting - I've seen the advice and tried it (i.e. close to rex before first pivot) but it's still meh... hit and miss for me...

edit: i didn't post re charges in the charge thread as it has been trolled to death...

This post has been edited by Firestorm79: 22 October 2010 - 11:48 AM

[Molo]

If its a video in slow mo that you want then sorry I can't be of help

Just press X before he umm roars?

Its easier to dodge in rage mode

[Solyeuse]

Firestorm79, on 22 October 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

With baiting - I've seen the advice and tried it (i.e. close to rex before first pivot) but it's still meh... hit and miss for me...

IMO you don't need to bait the charge. It shouldn't matter what weapon you brought - just roll right.

1) Rolling right puts you out of the hitzone of the rocks.

2) If Tiggy charges, rolling right lets you ninja-roll under his arm, thereby avoiding the charge.

3) If he roars, you have enough time to roll the roar (there's a reason I always take Evade+ to Tigrex )

4) If he double/bites, just roll right again. Poof, Tigrex misses! I haven't confimed this for GS and LS as their post-attack right roll has slightly longer endlag, but it woks perfectly on SnS and DS. Lances and Gunlances can't roll (and I never fight Tiggy with either one - exception of Tiggy Lance, which I swore never to touch again). I've never hammered Tiggy, and HH, for some reason, I have no trouble instinctively dodging his attacks, so no help there (sorry T.T).

5) The Spin can be avoided by rolling out (tilt your analog stick down and roll). Then, you can punish him.

Firestorm79, on 22 October 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

edit: i didn't post re charges in the charge thread as it has been trolled to death...

Er, whoops. Sorry.

[BizzarreCoyote]

*Reads thread, takes advice to heart*

I think this will help with my own issues with Tigrex, thank you. I've always wondered how people had such an easy time with him.

[Usul]

Take note of the shockwave on the ground when Tigrex roars and use it as a visual indicator. Roll/hop at the exact moment the wave is about to hit you. Obviously easier said than done though.

With the spin/bite baiting thingy, rather than "be close to tigrex before first pivot", totally eliminate the margin for error and "be close to Tigrex as soon as it's attack is over".

Here's my take on the Tiggy dilemma:



Got a roar dodge early on then general baiting for the rest of the time.

[One]

That may be the first lance vs Tigrex video that I've ever seen. Nice job bro.

*also takes notes on how to bait better*

[Molo]

One, on 23 October 2010 - 04:21 AM, said:

That may be the first lance vs Tigrex video that I've ever seen. Nice job bro.

Are you serious?

Anyway, THIS IS THE BEST LANCE VS TIGREX VIDEO YOU WILL EVER SEE

This post has been edited by Molossus: 23 October 2010 - 01:11 AM

[Usul]

blaze0070x also has a Tigrex vs. Lance vid:



He's got a Tigrex that just roars almost every other time. Pretty much the vid I studied when I started to learn Tigrex roar dodge without evade+.

[LeeSiuLoong]

you can dodge roar by watching a lot of things... example
1) watch the circle on the ground and press X before hit you
2) watch head and press X when he release the scream and put the head forward
3) hear the scream and when he release the full power roar press X
4) watch wings and when he open press X when are totally opened
5) watch the tail and press X 1 istant before he smash it on ground

btw the only way to amster this MOI is training... training training training... when you reach a good % of dodge, try to do it without watch the screen... just hear it and dodge ive done this training and work

[RJester]

LeeSiuLoong, on 24 October 2010 - 07:49 AM, said:

you can dodge roar by watching a lot of things... example
1) watch the circle on the ground and press X before hit you
2) watch head and press X when he release the scream and put the head forward
3) hear the scream and when he release the full power roar press X
4) watch wings and when he open press X when are totally opened
5) watch the tail and press X 1 istant before he smash it on ground

btw the only way to amster this MOI is training... training training training... when you reach a good % of dodge, try to do it without watch the screen... just hear it and dodge ive done this training and work

Nice detailed tips!

Up till now, I've only noticed the circle on the ground (i assume it's the white circle) but seriously...i haven't got much luck with the dodging. Just cant seems to get it right.

By the way, a couple of questions.

1. Does this (item 1) applies to any other monsters that roar as well?
2. if I'm trying to roll towards the monster when it's doing the roar, do i look out for the circle on the ground as well? Or there's a different timing/action to take note?

Thanks.

[Usul]

AFAIK only Nargacuga roar can be dodged in a similar manner, seeing as it's basically a dumbed-down Tigrex roar.

[Firestorm79]

this is all great stuff... I'm going to try LSL's tips. BTW, with the circle hitting the ground do you roll as it impacts the ground or just after or just before?

narga roar timing's slightly different i believe, I can pull that off more often than the tigrex, but its just by instinct as opposed to technical analysis...

[RJester]

I've been playing mainly as a gunner, so I somehow managed to avoid the roar most of the time. But it does screw me up if i'm caught in the roar and charge combo..

Are we looking at the circle (shockwave) hitting ground or the white circle moving on the ground?

[Usul]

Firestorm79, on 25 October 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

this is all great stuff... I'm going to try LSL's tips. BTW, with the circle hitting the ground do you roll as it impacts the ground or just after or just before?

narga roar timing's slightly different i believe, I can pull that off more often than the tigrex, but its just by instinct as opposed to technical analysis...

You roll a split-second *after* it hits the ground (which is the time it basically hits you).

Narga's roar works exactly the same: roll through ground roar shockwave = roar dodged. It only appears to have different timing since of course, Tigrex and Narga's pre-roar rituals aren't exactly the same.

[Firestorm79]

Usul, on 25 October 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

You roll a split-second *after* it hits the ground (which is the time it basically hits you).

Narga's roar works exactly the same: roll through ground roar shockwave = roar dodged. It only appears to have different timing since of course, Tigrex and Narga's pre-roar rituals aren't exactly the same.

oic...

[Chaa]

I like to think that moi means playing "jump rope"

[Mr.Tigrex]

Chaa, on 25 October 2010 - 07:33 AM, said:

I like to think that moi means playing "jump rope"

Moment of invincibility no?

[LeeSiuLoong]

Quote

1. Does this (item 1) applies to any other monsters that roar as well?
2. if I'm trying to roll towards the monster when it's doing the roar, do i look out for the circle on the ground as well? Or there's a different timing/action to take note?

only tiggy and naruga has "circle" on ground... btw you can dodge these roar:
tigrex, nargacuga, garuga, gypceros and purple gypceros (the flash) withouth evade skill,
rathalos, azure rathalos, rathian, pink rathian with evade +1 (and i think basarios too i dun remember)
gravios, black gravios, lao shan lung, silver rathalos, gold rathian, with evade +2 (and if i remember good you can dodge the green conga scream from ass, and copper blangonga screem)

i think these are all scream MOI you can do... please tell me if i miss some

This post has been edited by LeeSiuLoong: 25 October 2010 - 11:45 PM

[Chaa]

aZergling, on 25 October 2010 - 12:56 PM, said:

Moment of invincibility no?

Not literally. But watch the shockwave and roll over it is what I mean in jumping rope

[RJester]

LeeSiuLoong, on 26 October 2010 - 07:38 AM, said:

only tiggy and naruga has "circle" on ground... btw you can dodge these roar:
tigrex, nargacuga, garuga, gypceros and purple gypceros (the flash) withouth evade skill,
rathalos, azure rathalos, rathian, pink rathian with evade +1 (and i think basarios too i dun remember)
gravios, black gravios, lao shan lung, silver rathalos, gold rathian, with evade +2 (and if i remember good you can dodge the green conga scream from ass, and copper blangonga screem)

i think these are all scream MOI you can do... please tell me if i miss some

ic.. thanks!