[Hiname]

Sounds odd, does it not? Well, hello everyone.

After playing and loving the original Monster Hunter, I decided to pick up Freedom Unite after getting myself a PSP.
So I "think" im getting along rather nicely, Im always looking for ways to do better. So, naturally, I like to share oppinions and advice with follow hunters.

Currently, Im struggling on the last missions of the 5 Star Elder missions and just unlocked the Rank 5 urgent quest to enter rank 6.
Using a Dragonbow Halo and the full Kirin Armor ( Sometimes, rules "does" apply. ) with 1 Everlasting Gem to negate the negative effect and Vision gems to get auto tracking.

Until now, I started with a bow and killed pretty much everything with a Bow. And I have no pushing intention of getting my hands on a different weapon unless I really really really have too. I grew somewhat fond of my little needle-thrower.
But, to be prepared, I made a set of bone and metall long-swords, aiming toward the Eager Cleaver and the poison longsword whose name I sadly forgot.

Now my first question would be.. is the Halo bow still worth its effort, or maybe after upgrading it into Solar? Two more azure horns to go, bloody hell..
Or is there a new and more awsome bow within reach?
Same goes for the armor, too. Im thinking about the Glyph-Armor from Lao, as soon I can kill him on the village quests.

Next thing is.. my farm looks a bit empty, for what I could already build up. So even though this question mightseem a little "lame", Im curious on where you do your point-farming. *Tosses a coin to the terrible pun-glass*
Currently, Im doing a "Hunt 20 damn annoying white monkeys." quest and gather up some Mountain Herbs and a Khezu hatchling or two up "in the mountains". (A cookie for everyone that had to laugh here.)

Aaaand something else Im curious about. Like two questions in one. Dragon Elders flee when they lost enough health and start the next mission injured, I got that much. Now.. what about Kirin? For whatever freaky reason, the cute little pony is labeled as a Dragon Elder but does not run away when dealt enough damage. So I guess that means he will not start the next mission injured, yes?

And mentioning injured dragons.. how many missions does it ussaly take for a dragon elder to fall in the Village-Quests? I turned the Firequeen and the Metall Dragon into arrow-hedgehogs twice in a row and they still escaped. Guess I really need a new bow soon..

Oh, I almost forgot. Those "shinys" some monsters drop when you tease/surprise/scare them or whatever.. Is there a list somewhere what you have to do for each monster to make that happen? I sometimes find it hard to remember everything. Or find out in the first place.

Edit] geez, you always reember something when you hit up the post... My little cat-companion, aside from having a silly name.. he is a pacifist and I thought it might be a good idea to have him permanently train his defense while stuffing him with flute skills. Does this work out later on?

And.. yes, thats about it I think. Hope to see some insightfull replies when I stop by again. *waves happily*

Good hunting.

This post has been edited by Hiname: 11 October 2010 - 10:24 PM

[Chaa]

Wee! Another one joins the hunt! Welcome to minegarde first of all. Now the questions;

1) Dragon bow solar is good, but the thing with bows is you need a variety. And take note of the coating types and the type of charges a bow has. There's a bow guide here that's good.

2) Training school is a good way of earning pokke points as well as trying out new weapon types. Try it, because you can only get the barrage piercing by finishing all single training WITH ALL weapon types.

3) Kusha, teo/Luna, chammy, and the fatalis bros all take multiple rounds. Unless you do the low/high rank with g rank weps. (minus the fatty bros)

4) shiny drops? There's a guide here for it too.

5) defense drop and flute skills makes an awesome buff cat. Useful when they hit full fondness. One of my most used cats is set up like this;
180att/320def
Aims small
Slash type
Demon flute
True health flute
Speedy recovery

It cuts tails for me, clears out minions, and heals and buffs me. But it's good to have multiple cats for different situations.

Hope that helps!

This post has been edited by Chaa: 11 October 2010 - 10:49 PM

[Hguols]

Hello Hiname! Your avatar scared the hell out of me!
(iz that a nyess kitteh? ._.)

Chaa has some great advice.

Don't make your weapon tree look like a stick. Make multiple weapon trees, with branches, pretty flowers, etc.

I'd recommend doing some training missions for pokke points. You can get some other stuff too! (apart from experience, and it's just fun)

[Ashqul]

All right since Chaa pointed it out, welcome, point farming, I do goldfish farming for pokee points, a really tedious process but u have to get used to it. Go to forest and hills gathering quest, get snakebee larva and and whatever u combine with that to make goldfish bait. Make a full amount of goldfish bait, then get the max amount of larva and whatever u combine for the bait. the camp point has goldfish, if u dont see it, leave and come back to the camp, then if u see a goldfish, throw ur bait and catch it, when u have a full amount which i think is 10, deposit, I think after u finish all ur mats and baits u make 15 to 30 thousand points....

[Tuddle]

hi hiname
like chaa said, training is a good way to earn pokke points, but if you're well on your way with hammers, treasure quests might also help. but they're just a bit more time consuming

[Du Hua]

Ashqul, on 12 October 2010 - 09:21 AM, said:

All right since Chaa pointed it out, welcome, point farming, I do goldfish farming for pokee points, a really tedious process but u have to get used to it. Go to forest and hills gathering quest, get snakebee larva and and whatever u combine with that to make goldfish bait. Make a full amount of goldfish bait, then get the max amount of larva and whatever u combine for the bait. the camp point has goldfish, if u dont see it, leave and come back to the camp, then if u see a goldfish, throw ur bait and catch it, when u have a full amount which i think is 10, deposit, I think after u finish all ur mats and baits u make 15 to 30 thousand points....

+1 to Goldenfish farming.. Though only because it allows you to do something else WHILE fishing. MAKLUVA armor helps btw (catches fish on the first bite), and it's pretty easy to make.

Though once you start up High-Rank, getting Pokke Points is pretty easy even while just questing normally because of Wyvern Sobs (2500 pts!). Easy ones I can think of: While farming Basarios for his Tears/Wings paintball him while hidden for a shiny. While farming Rathalos for his Rubies flash him out of the sky for a shiny. While farming Rathian for her Rubies Shock Trap her. While farming Diablos for 1001 Thoracics, get his horns stuck in the wall for a shiny.

Welcome to Minegarde!

[Usul]

Training doesn't net as much points per quest compared to other options, but for every fishing or gathering quest you do, you'll most likely be able to do more 2-3 training school runs or even more, which sort of evens it out. Not to mention that doing training quests give you more bang for your buck:

1) It generally helps you improve while getting pokke points at the same time;
2) It's not as tedious as fishing. This is arguable though, especially if you're a fishing enthusiast;
3) monster kills in training school counts toward your slay count of that particular monster, which in turn unlocks some things in the game; and
4) Expand Pickaxes. (Diablos, Gravios, and Kirin basic trainings)

Most likely it'll hinge on which you like to do better: monster hunting or fly fishing.

[kai]

Actually, there was a debate some time back on the quickest way to obtain pokke points (at lower levels of course). IIRC, this was the order:

1: Transport eggs (mega juice + back packing)
2: FnH Fishing

And followed by pokke points as by-products
3: Training Quests
4: Treasure Hunts

There's a special option if you're at higher level:
*: Gyp hunting... (many wyvern sob carves... just make sure your armour is tough enough and get yourself something with high speed gathering...)

[Hiname]

Phew, thats quite the greeting over here. Hello again everyone. *waves*

While I understand to have a good collection of weapons and armor at home.. I kinda fel like a archer. Sure, sometimes its just better to smash stuff up front, but does not everyone have a weapon thats a favorite? *snicker*
Personally I would be dead scared fighting Kirin with a weapon made of metall. Talk about shocking.
Not to mention I suck brutally with a hammer. Ugh! Hunting is a matter of grace. *nods sagely*

Fishing it is for now then... *shoulders the fishing rod and the box with bugs*
Soon the farmign for Rathalos Rubys beginns.. *sigh* Silver Sol both for melee and range.. that will sure as hell take some time.

And Hguols...
Rawr! Fear my kitty of doom. Once it grew teeth, it will eat you all. Srrsly.

[Solyeuse]

Three letters for you

HBG

pwns Kirin like nobody's business. I'm recommending the Blastion Cannon, key materials being Purple Gypceros Wings. Load in some Pellet 2 and drag it to a Kirin fight (hopefully you have PelletS Up armor). Should have the fight in the bag within 15 minutes (my experience with a maxed out, Power Barrel Blastion Cannon against Battleground Kirin). You should have your Azure Horns in no time.


And take it from someone who's been there, Blademaster Silver Sol is not worth the investment. Get Ceanataur S or Cena U, or Rath Soul U. Dunno about Silver Sol Gunner gear though...

kai, on 12 October 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Actually, there was a debate some time back on the quickest way to obtain pokke points (at lower levels of course). IIRC, this was the order:

1: Transport eggs (mega juice + back packing)
2: FnH Fishing

And followed by pokke points as by-products
3: Training Quests
4: Treasure Hunts

There's a special option if you're at higher level:
*: Gyp hunting... (many wyvern sob carves... just make sure your armour is tough enough and get yourself something with high speed gathering...)

Whatever happened to Volcano Gathering? Disturb the Basarios, gather the (likely) Wyvern Sobs, run/farcaster back, deposit for 2000 pokke points in less than a minute?

I know, it requires G Rank Volcano Gathering, but wouldn't it work with High Rank Volcano as well?

[Vult]

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Now my first question would be.. is the Halo bow still worth its effort

Halo is a good bow path for sure, but as has been stated you need multiple bows to be really effective as an archer. You are going to want to get at least one bow for each element... At low rank Halo for Thunder, Kut Ku is decent for Fire (prominence is better), blango for ice, hermitaur for water, and black bow for dragon.

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Same goes for the armor, too. Im thinking about the Glyph-Armor from Lao, as soon I can kill him on the village quests.

Kirin is quite nice at low rank. My favorite is Azure Rathalos and I would get it as soon as its available. Garuga is another good one.

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Next thing is.. my farm looks a bit empty, for what I could already build up. So even though this question mightseem a little "lame", Im curious on where you do your point-farming.

For my money the training hall is the best way to get a bunch of pokke points early on. It has the added benefits of unlocking the Barrage Piercing (great for bows) when you complete all 50 basic training quests and it gives you experience with every weapon type, which is its own reward.

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Now.. what about Kirin?

Kirin doesn't flee.

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

how many missions does it ussaly take for a dragon elder to fall in the Village-Quests?

They flee after 25 minutes if you have done more then 1/3 of their health in damage. So.. it stands to reason that is should take 3 quests to kill them (maybe 4 if you are struggling)

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Those "shinys" some monsters drop when you tease/surprise/scare them or whatever.. Is there a list somewhere?

It exists. Check the FAQs section perhaps.

Hiname, on 11 October 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

...have him permanently train his defense...

I have a pacifist and I have always had him train Defense - I think it makes the most sense as well. You will want more the one comrade, of course, remember to let them rest when they are not on a quest as this will increase their loyalty. (edit again.. I need to stop, lol) - So when you have 3 - when you get back from a quest have that cat rest during the next quest while you take another. Get back from that quest then have the one that was resting train, let the one you just took rest, and select the next... so they should rest just after a quest, then be training after the next quest. Hope I am makeing sense here...

EDITS = my armor combo suggestion was wrong, so I removed it. Added to the comrade comment a little.

This post has been edited by Vult: 12 October 2010 - 01:04 PM

[Hguols]

Solyeuse, on 12 October 2010 - 05:45 AM, said:

Whatever happened to Volcano Gathering? Disturb the Basarios, gather the (likely) Wyvern Sobs, run/farcaster back, deposit for 2000 pokke points in less than a minute?

I know, it requires G Rank Volcano Gathering, but wouldn't it work with High Rank Volcano as well?

I'm gonna have to agree with you there. Though, I usually just play out Basarios Season and come back with over 10 grand pokke points and other bones, ores and other goodies. ....not bad for 30 minutes of "work".
^ _ ^

I think gathering Khezu whelps in the Swamp is a good point run too. ....bring Farcaster materials, and it's 400points per 2 map jog.
It's not as bountiful as Basarios Season, but it is quick.

[Ner'zhul]

kai, on 12 October 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Actually, there was a debate some time back on the quickest way to obtain pokke points (at lower levels of course). IIRC, this was the order:

1: Transport eggs (mega juice + back packing)
2: FnH Fishing

If we're talking about transporting eggs, the best place would be Hunting Horn Usage Training. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did this but:

1. Kill the 2 Giapreys in Area 1 and 2 Giapreys in Area 3.
2. Play the flute: White-Blue for Infinite Stamina. (No need for Mega Juice)
3. Get Carnivore Egg. There are infinite eggs in this quest and 100% chance to get them.
4. RUN TO BASE! Pawn egg for 700z/700pp.
5. REPEAT. To end mission, kill a Giaprey (in area 5).

After killing the Giapreys in area 1 & 3, the only enemies you'll encounter are the Vespoids in area 3 & 5, and the Anteka in area 2 (unless you took the long way around).

You can get 700z/700pp every 3 and a half minutes, quite slow imo, but the fact that you can do this from the VERY BEGINNING is a huge plus.
7000z/7000pp in roughly 35 minutes is HUGE, especially in the beginning.

[Hguols]

Ner'zhul, on 12 October 2010 - 11:54 AM, said:

If we're talking about transporting eggs, the best place would be Hunting Horn Usage Training. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did this but:

1. Kill the 2 Giapreys in Area 1 and 2 Giapreys in Area 3.
2. Play the flute: White-Blue for Infinite Stamina. (No need for Mega Juice)
3. Get Carnivore Egg. There are infinite eggs in this quest and 100% chance to get them.
4. RUN TO BASE! Pawn egg for 700z/700pp.
5. REPEAT. To end mission, kill a Giaprey (in area 5).

After killing the Giapreys in area 1 & 3, the only enemies you'll encounter are the Vespoids in area 3 & 5, and the Anteka in area 2 (unless you took the long way around).

You can get 700z/700pp every 3 and a half minutes, quite slow imo, but the fact that you can do this from the VERY BEGINNING is a huge plus.
7000z/7000pp in roughly 35 minutes is HUGE, especially in the beginning.

I will remember this!
^ _ ^

[Ashqul]

Solyeuse, on 12 October 2010 - 06:45 AM, said:

Three letters for you

HBG

pwns Kirin like nobody's business. I'm recommending the Blastion Cannon, key materials being Purple Gypceros Wings. Load in some Pellet 2 and drag it to a Kirin fight (hopefully you have PelletS Up armor). Should have the fight in the bag within 15 minutes (my experience with a maxed out, Power Barrel Blastion Cannon against Battleground Kirin). You should have your Azure Horns in no time.


And take it from someone who's been there, Blademaster Silver Sol is not worth the investment. Get Ceanataur S or Cena U, or Rath Soul U. Dunno about Silver Sol Gunner gear though...




Whatever happened to Volcano Gathering? Disturb the Basarios, gather the (likely) Wyvern Sobs, run/farcaster back, deposit for 2000 pokke points in less than a minute?

I know, it requires G Rank Volcano Gathering, but wouldn't it work with High Rank Volcano as well?

That's all you need to know on how to gun, pellet spam and it will CONVENIENTLY go to his horn and cause many staggers, heroics will help tons but that's when ur advanced and have no problem dodging Kirin and his high speed charges and lightning.

[Sgara]

The best is Training. Just complete all 5 training missions each time you unlock them and you will never run out of Pokke Points. This also makes you a better player, as well as unlocking the Barrage Piercing before you even meet Los n Ian.

Of course, if this is your first time through, you will probably find the training missions quite intimidating.

[Ashqul]

Don't worry about training missions, the hard ones are usually the lance on rex or the ls and gl on grav or something.

[Usul]

Kirin vs. Hammer is like piss-easy. Plus, you can get the ever-so-useful *expand pickaxes*.

[Ashqul]

If you don't know what they are, they expand certain mats, so when u combine one with lets say a firestone, u get an extra firestone!

[kai]

I rem someone did a vid on grav training using SnS; sleep bombing. Took approx 2 mins. Great rewards, great time...